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Post by smra on Mar 6, 2014 22:13:59 GMT -5
Fellow SMRA Riders, The first round of what I'm sure is going to be an epic spring series is in the books. The OTHG put on a successful event with a great turn out and perfect weather for racing. Looking forward to seeing everyone at Stead this coming weekend, don't forget Stead is offering a practice day on Friday as well. With that being said there are always a few issues at the beginning of each race series. Most all of the issues revolve around the rules and most of those issues stem from those who have never taken the time to read the rules. As a competitor you are responsible for reading and knowing the rules of the sanctioning body that you are participating in. In this case SMRA Rules. The rules for SMRA are available for review at sierramotocross.com/SMRA%20Rules%20and%20Regulations%20Final.pdf, please take the time to read the rules and do not assume because it's the way you have always done something that it is the right way. Some of the more common infractions are as follows: 125/250f are NOT permitted to ride in the 250/450f classes at any skill level with the exception of PRO'S. SMRA has always been this way! This is currently being looked at by the board and may change for the fall series, but for now the rule is as stated. Beginner riders are NOT permitted to ride in the 50cc, 65cc, 85cc open classes or School Boy Class. This is a safety issue, beginners should not be on the track with intermediate riders. 85/150's (big wheel or small wheel) are NOT permitted to ride in any big bike class to include School Boy. To all Promoters, You are responsible for enforcing the SMRA rules at any SMRA event you put on. This is to ensure as safe and fare of an event as possible for all riders. If everyone follows the rules and enforces the rules it provides a consistent series for all. Thank you for taking the time to read this and review the SMRA rules for the safety and fairness to all competitors. If anyone has any questions as to the interpretation of a rule please don't hesitate to ask an SMRA Board Member and we will do our best to explain it to you. Sincerely, Max Brokaw SMRA Referee
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Post by fkcycles775 on Mar 7, 2014 14:13:47 GMT -5
85/150's (big wheel or small wheel) are NOT permitted to ride in any bike bike class to include School Boy.
so if your kid has an 85 or 150 they cant ride smra. Im pretty sure that's not what you mean but that's how it looks,
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Post by smra on Mar 7, 2014 17:25:44 GMT -5
85/150's (big wheel or small wheel) are NOT permitted to ride in any bike bike class to include School Boy.
so if your kid has an 85 or 150 they cant ride smra. Im pretty sure that's not what you mean but that's how it looks, My apologies, that was a typo and has now been fixed, thank you. It should have read "big bike class."
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Post by high44 on Mar 10, 2014 7:47:49 GMT -5
Beginner riders are NOT permitted to ride in the 50cc, 65cc, 85cc open classes or School Boy Class. This is a safety issue, beginners should not be on the track with intermediate riders.
Then why do you let them all on the track on practice days?
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Post by collord216 on Mar 10, 2014 9:41:13 GMT -5
Open is open is open
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Post by smra on Mar 10, 2014 11:26:40 GMT -5
Beginner riders are NOT permitted to ride in the 50cc, 65cc, 85cc open classes or School Boy Class. This is a safety issue, beginners should not be on the track with intermediate riders. Then why do you let them all on the track on practice days? Let me first start off by explaining that SMRA is a sanctioning body. It is a non-profit organization that is made up completely of volunteers. SMRA organizes a spring and fall series each year. They provide a set of rules to keep the series consistent, they track the series points as well as bump points and they provide the series awards. Each promoter that puts on a race in an SMRA series is responsible for their event. They have agreed to race under the SMRA rule book and are responsible for enforcing the rules. If you are at a race and you feel the promoter is not doing that, please address it with them at the race. Again the SMRA Series is made up of several promoters, if you have an issue with the way that promoter is managing their event please address it with them. If you would rather, you can send an e-mail to one of the board member for SMRA and they can pass it on to the promoter. Unfortunately there are no rules in SMRA about how a promoter runs their practice. If they are running beginners on the track with intermediates then that is there decision and risk. You need to address it with the promoter.
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Post by smra on Mar 10, 2014 11:29:10 GMT -5
Not at the expense of someones safety!!!!
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Post by collord216 on Mar 10, 2014 11:39:48 GMT -5
Beginner riders are NOT permitted to ride in the 50cc, 65cc, 85cc open classes or School Boy Class. This is a safety issue, beginners should not be on the track with intermediate riders.
Well what about us "age defined" classes, 20+ begginer were ran with 40+ expert? The guy running the gate and taking roll call was dropping us under one gate until it was agreed that it wasn't a good idea. So what's the difference? Your 65 begginer won't keep up with 65 intermediate in an open scenario they won't even see each other on the track. I don't see a safety issue with any open class that's why it's called open. Run watcha brung
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Post by high44 on Mar 10, 2014 13:37:05 GMT -5
Big wheel 85/150 you are going to stop letting them race. starting when I see them every weekend we go. They are in the Beginner class all the time. But never in the JR/Intermediate.
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Post by smra on Mar 10, 2014 15:09:20 GMT -5
Beginner riders are NOT permitted to ride in the 50cc, 65cc, 85cc open classes or School Boy Class. This is a safety issue, beginners should not be on the track with intermediate riders. Well what about us "age defined" classes, 20+ begginer were ran with 40+ expert? The guy running the gate and taking roll call was dropping us under one gate until it was agreed that it wasn't a good idea. So what's the difference? Your 65 begginer won't keep up with 65 intermediate in an open scenario they won't even see each other on the track. I don't see a safety issue with any open class that's why it's called open. Run watcha brung Once again you are arguing a point that should be addressed with the race promoter. Those classes shouldn’t go off on the same gate unless it is agreed upon by the riders on the gate. Allowing beginners to ride in the open class means they all start on one gate. You say the beginner will never be seen by the intermediate, which is untrue. I watched a race at the first round where a rider in an 85 class was lapped four times in a 6 lap race and the rider never crashed or stopped on the track. That rider and every rider that had to pass them at 5 times their speed were in danger. It’s typically the faster rider that gets caught up in it due to the increased closing speeds things happen fast. I find it hard to believe that you are arguing a rule that is meant for the safety of these kids that already participate in a dangerous sport. Beside the beginner class is for a rider to get experience racing with people at their own skill level so they feel comfortable. Once they are comfortable they should be riding JR class showing they have the skill and ability to participate in an open class.
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Post by smra on Mar 10, 2014 15:16:50 GMT -5
Big wheel 85/150 you are going to stop letting them race. starting when I see them every weekend we go. They are in the Beginner class all the time. But never in the JR/Intermediate. I'm not sure what you are saying? It has never been said we are going to stop letting them race, read the rule book it clearly states they can run all 85/150 classes. They do NOT however meet the requirements to run in Schoolboy or the big bike classes, as stated before.
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Post by collord216 on Mar 10, 2014 15:17:03 GMT -5
You don't think the rider and parent knows what "open" means?
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Post by mxforfun on Mar 10, 2014 18:37:22 GMT -5
I am wondering why a 85/150 is not permitted in the Schoolboy class? Most schoolboy classes at other tracks are based on age and 85/150's are permitted. If they have the ability to run with the big bikes why not let them? Does a big bike have a disadvantage to the 85/150? Just wondering.
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Post by Mr Moto on Mar 10, 2014 20:01:59 GMT -5
Beginner riders are NOT permitted to ride in the 50cc, 65cc, 85cc open classes or School Boy Class. This is a safety issue, beginners should not be on the track with intermediate riders. Well what about us "age defined" classes, 20+ begginer were ran with 40+ expert? The guy running the gate and taking roll call was dropping us under one gate until it was agreed that it wasn't a good idea. So what's the difference? Your 65 begginer won't keep up with 65 intermediate in an open scenario they won't even see each other on the track. I don't see a safety issue with any open class that's why it's called open. Run watcha brung The difference??? I'd hope its the experience and thought process is situations, adults have that over kids... Life experience, knowing what certain out comes may lead to...
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Post by max924z on Mar 10, 2014 20:33:55 GMT -5
I am wondering why a 85/150 is not permitted in the Schoolboy class? Most schoolboy classes at other tracks are based on age and 85/150's are permitted. If they have the ability to run with the big bikes why not let them? Does a big bike have a disadvantage to the 85/150? Just wondering. Schoolboy class is based on age as it is in SMRA and mini's are not permitted just as it is in AMP/GFI. I have not seen any rulebook that allows minis to run in schoolboy.
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