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Post by tony on Aug 3, 2006 4:08:43 GMT -5
Don't even ask me I don't have the details. Apparently Mustang and Sierra couldn't come to any agreement on the scheduling conflict and the date is as far as Mustang is concerned officialy canceled as being an active race date on the Sierra schecdule.
This is despite as I understand it Sierra already knowing well in advance this race date has been canceled and still aren't showing it as such on their web site.
The race date isn't listed on the mustangmx.com website because no race will be taking place there on the date Sierra is listing on their website and have so forth neglected in removing or correcting for their members.
If people show up at Mustang expecting to race there on that date it will so be because Sierra has published a race there on that date and has of to date made no effort to inform their members this race is officialy canceled.
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Post by jdal on Aug 3, 2006 13:00:07 GMT -5
Tony I do have to say that you are correct when you say, "DON'T EVEN ASK ME I DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS". I was at the last SMRA meeting and yes Jerry Masterpool was there. The minutes to the meeting are public knowledge and should be posted on the SMRA web sight.Our new web guy has been busy. If anyone is interested on what was said I would be happy to send a copy of the meeting minutes just e-mail me at lara@cccomm.net Thank You Jamie Lara SMRA sectary
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Post by gregg86n on Aug 3, 2006 19:49:59 GMT -5
Tony, I was at the last Sierra meeting on July 18 and Jerry said that he was a man of his word and that the race would go on. So as for saying that Sierra knew the race was canceled for some time now seems to be incorrect. This is the first I heard that it was canceled. And If it was canceled some time ago, trust me I would have known. I think that there is going to be some big changes coming soon, I think that Mustang, Honey lake, and Scott Davis will split from everybody around here, and do their own (outlaw racing). Splitting the rider base now in three. I believe that Mustang and Honey lake are the cause of the problems within Sierra, and that they will soon come out and say that mxwest and Sierra is messed up and come ride with us. I have big problems with that.Word has it that Scott Davis scabbed a date from the BLM to use Stead. With that, and the way Jerry and Lisa conduced themselves at the last Sierra meeting There is no way in hell that I will support them. If I was on the Sierra board, I would call to cancel the race at Honey lake. And tell the Big Three to pack sand!!
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Post by nielsenracing482 on Aug 3, 2006 21:00:47 GMT -5
How can you not support Jerry he is the only one who give the mx public a place to ride on a regular basis. I dont like these local races because you pay so much and you ride so little. Your Race series' are ok but it's nothing if you cant practice on the tracks that you race on.
I dont know Scott Davis but i do know that he runs a great track E-street is awsome. I would love to see what he could do with stead!
Honeylake is arguably one of the best tracks in the country.
Lets just say if they were to have there own little "outlaw" series I know where I would be racing.
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Post by teamair27 on Aug 3, 2006 21:44:25 GMT -5
I agree with tyler, Jerry is the only person who supports the motocross community enough to maintain his track three times a week. no one else is out there grooming the tracks except right before the race.
however, i wouldnt race the "outlaw" series, id just go down to Southern California and race where they actually get decent turnouts so that if i was able to win it wouldnt be 1 out of 5 people, and they have way more classes available down there, like 125 2-stroke class, i think thats something all of the race organizations need.
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Post by Preston 915 on Aug 4, 2006 0:18:24 GMT -5
stop with the 125 2-stroke only class its getting old
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Post by nielsenracing482 on Aug 4, 2006 0:30:18 GMT -5
even though i love my 2 stroke i agree with preston around here it would seriously be maybe me, you(keith), and Taylor Bittner. I would rather race two other guys for free on a practice day. at races with big turnouts 2-stroke classes are so fun.
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Post by tony on Aug 8, 2006 2:03:11 GMT -5
I'll respond to this from my own personal level in a matter I see as priority.
There's nothing I'd love and cheer more than see a 125 2 stroke class! I told you before, get enough 125 2 stroke riders together to make a class of even just 5 people and I'll do everything I can to make a 125 2 stroke class. You asked, it's yours, your talking to a 2 stroke lover here who can make that happen for you. Problem is we don't have 5 people who race 125 2 strokes. Your wanting the class but you aren't doing anything to help me make it happen for you. I want to see that happen as bad as you do, but I can't build a seperate race just for one bike. To help your effort I'd even be willing to bring on against you my own CR125 I have to make the class, but still, that's only 2 of us. I can't build a race schedule around just 2 riders, that wouldn't be fair to anyone else who had to suffer through just watching me spank you on my 125.
Jamie Lara, I've sent you an email requesting such information. I have no idea what the details may have been but I do have a good guess as to what, or I should say why, the top turnout tracks decided to leave Sierra. I'm thinking it may have had alot to do with the simple fact that they expected better treatment from the sanctioning body as opposed to equal treatment by tracks that only produced 60 entry turnouts.
I'm further guessing the low turnout tracks who were anticipating to ride on the heels of the higher turnout tracks probably should have just went along with what the better tracks were doing and had to say. Sierra had, and managed to lose 3 of the top producing rider turn out tracks on their schedule, E Street, Mustang and Honey Lake.
It's interesting that your to imply the cancelation of this one race was due to a "badness" on Jerry Masterpools part.
To me, it seems as though your side stepping a more basic and obvious issue.
I think it's an issue the powers that be within Sierra who claim to of always been for us the racers need to explain as to how they managed to screw this up for us the racers.
Those powers that be have attempted to shy away from any responses by not answering emails and neglecting to have a public message board of their own available to us the racers. When they were met with any level of percieved conflict on the public message boards held by others they've clearly taken a duck and hide approach.
Sierra started out with 3 of the biggest turnout producing tracks in this area, isn't it odd that everyone of those same big turn out tracks also quickly left Sierra?
Hmmm?
Was it so much Mustang is just bad and you need to prove your point, or could it possibly be maybe Sierra has a poor management issue? A real bad management issue as a matter of fact?
Seems to me, when your running a company and your companies top producing employees leave the company, it's not an issue with those employees but more so an issue with that company and its management.
Your being bitter towards Mustang for being the most recent to leave, and worse, for being the only one who left and actually told you why they were leaving. At least Mustang did tell you why they were leaving, everyone else just left it seems. Not that it made a difference, so why do you even care?
Maybe I know nothing, or maybe I know a whole lot?
There isn't another single person around here who's been directly involved with all the promoters like I have been so I'll atleast venture to guess I know more at least than any of you, call yourselves, or disclude me as what you will.
ALL the fools want to claim one thing, "the riders don't care about the politcs so let it go".
Oh how they do though
Its the fools who think they don't care because it all directly involves all of them and none of them are fools even though all of you have treated us as such.
Cut the BS, Sierra was always supposed to be about us the racers, so lets hear why that seemed to fall through. Sierra needs to answer up to all of us on why the top three tracks we wanted to race at as Sierra members left the association?
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Post by jdal on Aug 8, 2006 2:43:20 GMT -5
Tony I don't know why I bother with you. I sent you your minutes as you requested. No I did not phone you as you requested. All I know is that No one speaks for Jerry but Jerry himself. YOUR QUOTE," It's interesting that your to imply the cancelation of this one race was due to a "badness" on Jerry Masterpools part.". This is news to me. You are once again putting words in peoples mouth. In your e-mail to me you state that," I'm all for all of us, and want to see it all happen." sometimes I wounder Jamie Lara
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Post by tony on Aug 8, 2006 3:15:55 GMT -5
I have three emails from you, not a one of them contain minutes from any meeting.
Your lucky your talking to me though because one aspect I hold sacred and no one else around here does is any email or Private message sent to me is regaurded as just that, private. Unlike other people around here you will never find a email or private message sent to me passed along to anyone else.
I subscribe to the old school internet concept where such actions are tabo and in extreme distrust and bad taste. I have no trust or confidence for anyone who either priveatly or publicly passes along messages sent in confidence under any circumstances. Despite such actions being rampid amongst us, I will never partake in such actions and there isn't a single person here who can claim me for doing so despite many around here who have so done so.
Your private emails to me are safe, but you never sent me a single email with what you publicly claim to of sent me. I do not have a single email from you with "minutes from this meeting", nor do I have a single email from you with any mention of this meeting for that mater.
You've also neglected to answer my most basic question to Sierra. How and why did you guys manage to fail for all of us and loose the top tracks?
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Post by gregg86n on Aug 8, 2006 8:09:28 GMT -5
I think its the other way around Tony, Why did the BIG THREE fail us!
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Post by dosh65d on Aug 8, 2006 14:40:35 GMT -5
Well is there still practice sunday?
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Post by nielsenracing482 on Aug 8, 2006 15:30:27 GMT -5
Probably
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Post by slowkid37m on Aug 8, 2006 15:42:42 GMT -5
so is the race cansled???
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Post by slowkid37m on Aug 8, 2006 15:43:35 GMT -5
is the mustang race Canceled?
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