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Post by 961dad on Aug 15, 2006 10:20:15 GMT -5
I just wanted to know is there a Race this weekend at Mustang, Thanks
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Post by beaupre716 on Aug 15, 2006 11:20:04 GMT -5
From http://www.mustangmx.com:
The race SMRA is showing in their fliers and on their web site for the Mustang Track on August 12 and 13 is incorrect. There will be no such SMRA race at the Mustang Track on these dates. No such race date has ever been posted on the mustangmx.com web site indicating that such a race would take place.
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jdal
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Post by jdal on Aug 15, 2006 12:48:47 GMT -5
At the last SMRA meeting Jerry stated that he would have the race as scheduled, . As a board member I will not speak for the mustang track as to what went wrong. Personally I don't know. The summer schedule has been out since June, We are now in August. Last night was the first I saw on mustang web sight of any such information on a race not taking place. As a board member of SMRA I would like to apologies for any inconvenience this has caused. Look for our fall schedule to be posted soon. Thanks Jamie Lara SMRA Sectary
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Post by tony on Aug 18, 2006 1:39:44 GMT -5
Jamie Lara, I know first hand Bud knew as far back as June that there was a problem with this date and that race wasn't likely going to happen. I tried to get Bud and Jerry to have the race, but just change the date, the weekend before this scheduled date would have been perfect, no one ever did anything about it though. In reading your post here though that you submitted on Aug 15, I have to ask, your kidding me right? Last night (the 14th) was the first you saw of any such race not taking place? You seen the information and replied to it on this web site in this post written all the way back on Aug 3... mx775.proboards99.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1154596123&page=1#1154596123There was another post on this same issue submitted here all the way back on July 9th where I asked SMRA if this race was going to happen, still, to date, not a single person from SMRA has responded to tell all of their members that this race was not going to happen and your telling us all now that the first you heard of this race not taking place as a "Board Member" wasn't until Aug 14th? The Masterpools even contacted Bud and Judy by phone requesting that SMRA take the race off the schedule on the SMRA web site, here it is Aug 17th now and the SMRA web site is still showing this race date as acticve and there is no mention what so ever of the race being canceled anywhere on the SMRA web site. www.sierramotocross.com/Sierr%20Moto%20Sum%20Sr.pdfPersonaly, from an SMRA members stand point, I think it's inexcusable the way the SMRA Board Members such as yourself just sat on this issue for so long without doing anything or even seeming to care in any way what so ever about getting it resolved as far back as June when it did become a known issue to the SMRA board (I still have the emails showing this was a known issue to SMRA as far back as June). What gives? There's no SMRA message board for the SMRA members to go to with their questions. The SMRA Board Members listed on the SMRA web site just about never reply to their emails. The SMRA board members are aware of issues months in advance and do absolutely nothing what so ever to get known issues resolved and fixed. The top 3 of the 4 SMRA high turn out tracks have since left SMRA entirely and no apparent effort was made to keep them onboard. Race dates got canceled and the SMRA web site is still showing the race as if it was a go, with no mention of the cancelation. And now, if all that wasn't enough, I'm reading first hand here where an SMRA Board member is saying "Last night was the first I saw on mustang web sight of any such information on a race not taking place", even though this same person who is saying "last night" was the first they saw of this responded to a message here over a week ago in direct regards to the announcement that this race was officialy canceled due to it being scheduled directly on top of the 2 day Fallon race that weekend. If SMRA was an actual business I'd say it looks pretty clear there are some major upper management issues going horribly wrong there somewhere, wouldn't you? Maybe your not a business, but you still all took on a job, even as unpaid Board Members, you still voted yourselves in to do a job and in doing so should take some responsibility and accountability to do that job for SMRA, SMRA Promoters, and more importantly for the SMRA members.
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Post by oneraddad on Aug 18, 2006 10:30:58 GMT -5
You heard it here first....... I agree with some of the things Tony said. I've been trying for months, patiently, to pick up my sons first place trophie from SMRA's SPRING series race in Winnemucca. I can't get people to return my e-mails or phone calls. OK, you've lost all your big promoters,can't cooperate with Steve or Mark and you can't get the little guy his trophie, what gives.
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Post by motofinder on Aug 20, 2006 1:17:28 GMT -5
I’m sorry but I have to say that isn’t a very appropriate answer! Come out to the next race in Fernley and we’ll have your trophy, wouldn’t it be better to drop it off at a shop for oneraddad to pick up in the Reno area? Or where ever he lives or shops? It top it all off he’ll probably get charged a gate fee to get in. Why not try and help the guy out that would defiantly go a long way, especially after someone has been waiting that long and has never received an answer to his email or phone calls. Isn’t SMRA all about accountability? It says it right on the front page in bold letters. www.sierramotocross.com/So, who is accountable for this problem? Or no returned emails or phone calls? Who is accountable for not answering Tony’s emails? Who is accountable for not changing the date for the cancelled event on the website? here is a qoute from SMRA's website "You may contact us via email with questions or concerns and one of our officers will answer your questions in a timely manner and/or put the topic on the next meeting agenda for discussion."
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Post by gregg86n on Aug 20, 2006 8:54:10 GMT -5
O.k. Heres what I've seen, This is not rumor, fact or anything else, just what I have seen. I was at the July Sierra meeting and at that point, Masterpool said that he is a man of his word and the Mustang race would go on. The following week Tony posted that the race was canceled. At the old timer play day( weekend before the race,) Masterpool still had not made up his mind that the race was canceled, it wasn't until mid-week that the official word from Masterpool was the race was canceled. He lead Sierra to believe the race was still on up until just a few days before the race. And I don't think that any effort was made either by Masterpool or Sierra to reschedule the race at any time prior to the race.
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Post by motofinder on Aug 21, 2006 0:25:00 GMT -5
interesting gregg86n
Thanks
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Post by tony on Aug 24, 2006 3:44:40 GMT -5
Everything I said has been right here, and still is, available for public review, complete with the dates on when these issues were discussed.
SMRA had also led their members to believe there was going to be some type of series awards given out at the last race of their series held at Honey Lake last weekend, yet not a single SMRA Board member even bothered to show up for their own race?
We had about 478 entries on Saturday, we were not requiring SMRA cards for people to race Honey Lake and I personaly can only recall 2 of those entries asking us if they even needed their SMRA card so I'm not even sure if this turned out to be an "official" SMRA race either?
Rather than SMRA seeming to attempt to spread the blame in multiple directions, why not just come clean and state the obvious your having ALOT of internal problems that are only being delt with by Board Members and tracks leaving at this time faster than new ones are being brought in. SMRA seems to be consumed with internal problems to the point where they are having trouble getting a focus established and problems resolved.
I see Bud is still listed as the point of contact and President of SMRA, yet I heard this weekend he resigned a couple weeks ago? With all the problems and date changes and board member changes SMRA has been having, I'd think they have an obligation to the racers to get these internal issues resolved as a priority before they concern themselves with putting out race schedules and events past or present.
Isn't it time yet for the new and actual Board Member elections to take place for SMRA? Seems like now would be a good time to do so before things get made an even bigger mess than they already have been made into.
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Post by gregg86n on Aug 24, 2006 20:25:07 GMT -5
Disclaimer! For those that are too sensitive don't read this, it may contain adult language that my offend some. Tony you are so full of dog snot, your eyes are green. How in the hell can you say this. SMRA had also led their members to believe there was going to be some type of series awards given out at the last race of their series held at Honey Lake last weekend, yet not a single SMRA Board member even bothered to show up for their own race?
Are you f-ing brain dead. It has been from the beginning that Honey lake have the last race of the series just for that reason. Smra did not lead their members to believe this The Worsicks did. Its been on the flier all summer long. I'm sure they handled it like Masterpool did, cancel at the last minute, then blame SMRA. Like I said before, Honey lake and Mustang have conspired to destroy SMRA because they didn't get their way. You guys make Ty look like a freaking boy scout. Speaking of Ty, I owe him and MX West a big BIG apology. I always blamed them for getting kicked out of Honey lake,but after seeing these people in action, I can clearly see that the Worsicks can not be dealt with. If anybody has had that mindset for the last few years, please rethink this. They don't give a rip about northern Nevada rides. They promised riding gear to the spring series winners and did not come through. and they didn't come through with the promise they made last weekend for summer series awards. I saw that one coming.Their attitude and they way they do business just doesn't wash with this old school Nevadan. If you say you are going to do something, DO IT! Whats really sad is that they are leading Masterpool around by his nose, and that may just do him in. I don't give my hard earned money to democrats or dishonest race promoters. I can see why any SMRA board members didn't go, I don't blame them at all.
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Post by nielsenracing482 on Aug 24, 2006 22:17:48 GMT -5
SMRA had also led their members to believe there was going to be some type of series awards given out at the last race of their series held at Honey Lake last weekend, yet not a single SMRA Board member even bothered to show up for their own race? is this a slap at tony or the SMRA because it sounds like negligence if they didn't show up to their own race?
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Post by Mr Moto on Aug 24, 2006 23:07:53 GMT -5
Tyler, let me give you a little piece of advice......dont get in the middle of this mess.
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Post by wmcaracers on Aug 24, 2006 23:34:47 GMT -5
oneraddad.
This is Winnemucca mx. We were under the impression everyone recieved their spring series award from our race. We haven't recieved any e-mails or phone calls concerning this problem. Our number is on the flyer that is posted on the sierramx website. Please give us a call and we will get it to you ASAP. Again we would like to apologize. We will not be attending the Fernley race this weekend due to prior engagements. Have fun be safe and we are looking forward to seeing you in Winnemucca.
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