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Post by dakota on Jun 4, 2006 2:37:37 GMT -5
First of all, thank very much Robert for getting this Message Board created, you are such an asset to the MX world!! NEVADA RACINGMustang MX VenueJune 8-9 Thursday - Open Practice 4:00 - Dusk Friday - Practice 3:00 PM - Race 4:30 PM (working man's practice also) June 16-17 Friday - Open Practice 4:00 - Dusk Saturday - Practice 3:00 PM - Race 4:30 PM For more info: www.mustangmx.comMX West VenueJuly 14 -15 Gardnerville Fairgrounds, Gardnerville, NV Friday Practice - 5:00 PM - 8:00 PM Saturday - Practice 9:00 AM, Qualifiers immediately after, Opening ceremonies and Main Events at 7:00 PM July 28 - 29 Stead MX Track Friday Practice - 5:00 PM - 8:00 PM Saturday - Practice 4:00 PM - Race 6:00 PM August 11 - 12 Fallon Arena cross, Churchill County Fairgrounds Friday and Saturday race schedule - Practice 9:00 AM, Qualifiers immediately after. Opening ceremonies and Main Events at 7:00 PM each night For more info: www.mxwestracing.orgSierra Motocross VenueJune 10 - 11 Fernley International Raceway OTHG Saturday (Pee Wee & 60 Beg) Practice 11:00 AM Sunday (All Other Classes) Practice 8:00 AM July 9 Tufa Motorsports Park, Lovelock, NV Gates Open 6:00 AM - Practice 8:00 AM July 29 - 30 Hawthorne MX Park OTHG Saturday (Pee Wee & 60 Beg) Practice 11:00 AM Sunday (All Other Classes) Practice 8:00 AM August 12-13 Mustang MX Facility Saturday Open Practice 8:00 AM - 11:00 AM Sunday - Practice - 7:30 AM August 19 Honey Lake MX Park For more info: www.sierramotocross.comCALIFORNIA RACINGwww.estreetmx.com for current race flyer www.ampracing.com for current race flyer www.motowestracing.com for current race schedule Anybody have anything else to add??
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Post by beaupre716 on Jun 4, 2006 13:35:52 GMT -5
Thank you. I do what I can.
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Post by nielsenracing482 on Jun 4, 2006 20:07:21 GMT -5
After that has been posted what does everybody plan on racing this summer?
I will be at the mustang races for sure and fallon and gardnerville for sure.
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Post by beaupre716 on Jun 6, 2006 13:05:13 GMT -5
My own racing will have to begin in July in Gardnerville because of my broken foot. It's only been three weeks since I did it, but it seems so long since I've ridden. So it goes.
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Post by tony on Jun 8, 2006 4:06:16 GMT -5
Here's an mx775.com exclusive not announced yet anywhere else on the web but here first...
MustangMX will be holding a major event over the fourth of July weekend, that much is set in stone right now. The actual details of the event once they get announced are going to be even cooler still!
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Post by tony on Jun 8, 2006 4:43:01 GMT -5
Robert, did I hear right about your foot, you broke it riding somewhwere stupid like Verdi?
We have handicapped parking at MustangMX, you should come out and watch all the Pro riders who were showing up for the race out there making for the huge 200% per moto payback your now missing out on, those guys made some bank last weekend. They'll have to work a little harder for it this weekend though, Jerry gave me the ok to up the number of laps everyone does per moto. The "shortened" night race track at MustangMX is still bigger than some of the "full sized" day race tracks we have had around here. My thinking is give the people as much of their monies worth as we can, who wants to pay regular prices for 5 minute motos on a shortened mini track?
We had things wrapped up no later than 10-10:30PM last Saturday out there with plenty of room to add things like a second practice possibly and more laps for everyone.
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Post by pete on Jun 8, 2006 13:15:44 GMT -5
Tony when ara you going to have the results posted on mustang web sight
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Post by tony on Jun 8, 2006 19:47:58 GMT -5
The results are actually on the Mustang web site right now. I uploaded them onto the web site directly from the track last saturday night immediately after the race (like within 10 minutes of the race being finished.
I was asked not to however provide the link for the web page to anyone till after this fridays race. I'm guessing this was done to keep all the people who only had a competitive interest in how the turn out was in suspense for another week?
All the results will be posted (with a link to the page) though from last weeks race and this Fridays Night race as well as the series points for the 3 race series immediately following the last moto that night. I'll upload them directly to the web server from the track while I'm still out there and they'll be up and ready for everyone before they likely even get home from the race that night.
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Post by beaupre716 on Jun 8, 2006 21:08:36 GMT -5
Tony:
It is true. Although, in all fairness, I think Verdi is kind of fun. But, then again, I could entertain myself on the bike in a Wal-Mart parking lot, provided all the carts were safely in their corrals.
I'd still have preferred to be at Mustang, the problem being that I work on Wednesdays and Saturdays. My riding is relegated to Tuesday and Thursday evenings during the week, and usually during the last hour of daylight at that. Maybe you guys can set up a special session for me in a few weeks when I'm healed. I mean, if you're willing to set up handicapped parking for me now, a couple of extra sessions doesn't seem like too much more trouble.
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Post by tony on Jun 10, 2006 6:23:27 GMT -5
Verdi looks like fun, I've seen some areas that look cool just going by on the freeway past there, yet never see anyone actually out there. Now I know though, it's just a broken foot waiting to happen going out there. Since I've started racing MX though I have to admit, I've gotten really spoiled, we have so many great MX tracks to ride in the area going out to just ride in the wilds isn't all that apealing to me. Now that we have MustangMX going any where else is even less apealing to me. I mean we don't have anywhere else in this area where everyone can go get some real practice in on groomed conditions like MustangMX does. So many people are saying they are doing so much for area motocross but where actually is it getting done at? The area standard is just put on races, do nothing else, I don't see where that's doing "so much" for area MX. Granted no doubt, alot of people are doing alot of great stuff as far as putting on races, but they're stopping there with it all and aren't doing great things for area MX as claimed. They're doing what they can to make a buck by just holding races and doing nothing more. They likely aren't going to like my saying that, but there's no way any of them can argue otherwise like hearing it put point blank like that or not.
Anyone here can do the math themselves and see when all a track does is hold races, that track has a single motivation to do nothing but make money, they're tapping into your addiction and cashing in on it. That's business, you go into business, work all the hours normally to make money, put food on the table, don't claim though your doing it for area MX when you aren't, your doing it to put food on your own table.
The Masterpools are doing things for area MX and they are the only ones I see doing it. A single practice day can cost them as much as $1200 - $2200 out of Jerry's pocket, for equipment rentals, water, electricity, maint on their own equipment, rent, helpers and staff, fuel, cell phone service for all the phone calls they get, and time, tons and tons of time like 24/7 in time without exagerating.
Then do the math, on a good practice day out there with say 30 people paying $20 for a practice day you get a total of $600 paid in, $1200 - $2200 going out just to do it. Now that's doing something for area MX, not just your own well being. That's exactly why I'll do anything and everything I can as a volunteer to help an effort like that. It's also why I stopped being a volunteer helper for these claimed "non profit" groups in the area like OTHG and OTMX, they're all about profit for claimed non profit organisations. A volunteer staff, ALL donated equipment and donated land they run the races on, every race fee paid is sheer profit. None of that profit is going back to area MX though, they don't hold any practices or anything for area MX out of all that money being taken in. For a non profit org they should be doing leaps and bounds for area MX with all the money they are taking in between the 2 clubs and yet they are doing absolutely nothing for everyone with all that money?
I'm not trying to slam the clubs, but instead just pointing out the obvious, there's just too much going in and too little coming back out of it all for all of us putting that money in there to help support it with our race fee's. Race fee's which are also the exact same as the tracks trying to be run as for profit companies who pay for all their equipment and help and don't get it all donated.
And what's my motivation in saying this?
I'm not making a single dime in my own pocket, in fact I'm loosing money with the equipment and time I donate. My only motivation in saying this is I'm sick and tired of all this "were're doing so much for area MX" when in reality just about nothing is getting done, and even less is being done to make things better. I don't make a penny off what Mustang does or doesn't do, but I'm behind it 100% because all the right reasons are there.
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Post by oneraddad on Jun 10, 2006 7:25:00 GMT -5
Tony, Does it look like we all have stupid wrote on our foreheads. Mustangmx is a business and hopes to turn a profit some day or they would'nt charge anything to race or ride there. If they continue to take food off of there table and give it away, how long will this food last and what happens when it is all gone. If they don't make a profit some day then the doors will close and they won't be doing anything for the local mx scene.
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Post by tony on Jun 10, 2006 8:19:53 GMT -5
Rick, your the only person I've ever met in my life that has "stupid" written across their forehead, and I've met alot of people, go figure. If they didn't charge anything to race or ride there we wouldn't have it at all.
I've never once seen you out there so it seems kind of odd you'd be bright enough to of been able to of formed any true opinion though, so to answer your question applying only to you, I'd have to answer a yes.
If however Rick in your infinate wisdom you seem to think you have, if you can name me a single track or promoter doing not just more, but anything at all with in the same level Mustang is trying to do for us then I'd like to hear about it. Seriously
Unlike your self though, I've been directly involved with all of them from an insiders perspective and oddly from my angle I just don't see were you have any justification in once again slamming off your mouth in trying to be the all knowing entity you attempt to present yourself as? As far as I've known you've had no direct involvement with anyone or anything, so I'd have to question how you'd even happen to have a clue as to what was going on around here in your best effort to even try to form an opinion?
I don't mean saying that as just some idiotic attempt to slam you, I seriously am asking, how could you even try to have such a well formed opinion on anything if you've had absolutey ZERO involvement indepth in any of it like I have?
Get involved then form your moronic opinions. Every thing I know is known from direct hands on involvement.
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Post by oneraddad on Jun 10, 2006 9:02:01 GMT -5
I'm just saying Mustang mx is a business, thats all. They want to profit just like any other business.
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Post by tony on Jun 10, 2006 11:55:19 GMT -5
Your wrong, because your trying to talk about something you know nothing about and only think you do. Dude, please, why in the F do you think I'm so dedicated in helping Mustang any way I possibly can? Bring out the list on explaining whats in it for me to spend so much of my time helping them for free, not to mention all the computer equipment I've donated to them, not just to them, but to everyone who races there, it's all for that reason from me. There isn't a single person here who knows Jerry like I do other than maybe his wife Tara. Please!!! Who is talking here, your right it's me, the one person willing to slam who ever for what ever. Are you thinking Jerry possibly paid me off to raise praise for him?
If he did, I haven't cashed that check yet, I hope it doesn't bounce.
Your wrong, makes no sense, but your wrong, Guess what, Jerry doesn't care if he makes money, breaks even, or loses money at Mustang. It's so NOT about the money with him, its not about being a business even though other area promoters keep pushing him that route. I've been with them from the start and trying to figure out their mind frame behind it, there's no other angle I can put to them other than they just love the sport and they have that track out of devotion first. Obviously you have no idea what so ever how much money Jerry is going in the hole on every single day he's out there, but he's still doing it.
Your right, it's a business, but thats a weird line, and I don't know how to exactly explain it. It's like a business, but it's still more like a love for the sport than anything if I could sum it up. Everyone is telling them and helping them run it like a business, but, deep down, it's Jerry were talking about and he has that busines is fine, but I'm doing it for a different reason, he really is doing it all just for a love of the sport. If he wasn't, we wouldn't have the practice days available, it just costs too much money to do it and thats why we don't see anyone else doing it for all of us, jerry does it any how. Come on, everyone, that means all of you. If you've ben around here at least once over the past two years you know me. IF you know me you know I'm going to call things like I see them and hold no punches, I've been ganged up on and threatened to be kicked out of OTHG for just voicing things how I seen them.
Lets make one thing clear about all this, I'm not helping Mustang because they are paying me in any way actually, I'm helping them anyway I can because of a different reasn, it's because the Masterpools are doing this basicly and to simplify things just because they can and just because they want to. Jerry nor my own self have a care in the world if they make money on it. Please though, it's costing money, a ton of money, more thsan their making for sure, but they are still doing it.
I myself have a single focus anymore now that I've seen all the crap first hand and at a level most all of you haven't had the displeasuser in seeing. You all do what you want, but if you just want to be all about the sport and support the sport for the pure reasons, follow my lead or get involved enough on your own to find out the same things about everyone like I have. If you do, and like me could spend your time helping anywhere, you'll see and learn what I have and make your own selections on who you want to help or support just like I have.
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Post by nielsenracing482 on Jun 10, 2006 18:25:07 GMT -5
Tony NO RIDING IS DUMB RIDING other than on the street
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