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Post by Mr Moto on Jun 18, 2006 23:26:22 GMT -5
I was just wondering what everybody else thought It almost seem like feast or famine..What I mean by that is we have no races for a while, then we have a weekend with two or one series running against another on the same weekend..
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Post by beaupre716 on Jun 18, 2006 23:35:20 GMT -5
I agree that the feast or famine thing should be addressed. It'd be nice to have more coverage on the calendar and fewer multiple-race weekends.
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Post by Mr Moto on Jun 20, 2006 0:12:15 GMT -5
AMEN! We need more events!!!
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Post by beaupre716 on Jun 20, 2006 0:20:08 GMT -5
Yes! Let's have fewer bald spots on the calendar.
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Post by Dylan Laidlaw 144 on Jun 20, 2006 23:55:01 GMT -5
More races!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by beaupre716 on Jun 21, 2006 0:00:33 GMT -5
Um, promoters, are you listening?
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Post by Dylan Laidlaw 144 on Jun 21, 2006 0:01:27 GMT -5
hopefully they are
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Post by hiya on Jun 21, 2006 15:53:09 GMT -5
Guezz - we use to have races almost every weekend - ...... - go figure
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Post by beaupre716 on Jun 23, 2006 22:28:26 GMT -5
I'm all for a renaissance movement. Let's have a better, more unified schedule from here on out--please.
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Post by tony on Jun 24, 2006 7:00:53 GMT -5
I'm actually up in Oregon horseback riding right now as I write this enjoying a weekend off, but I'd certainly have too many race options to choose from than having nothing at all going on.
Sure we had Mammoth going on this weekend, but what good is a race option when next to no one can race it because it's too filled up, that's just too much of a good thing and you'd think anyone capable of filling up an event at that capacity would also be capable of putting on more than just a single event a year that's forced all that congestion.
Last year you had a day to get registered, this year you had minutes. That's huge, full gates for sure, but at the price of also only being a single race a year. Whats worse?
I'll take the option of having only 8-10 other people on my gate and being able to race regularly any day of the week over having just a single race a year I likely won't even be able to register for with only the hopes of maybe next year.
A big race like that getting so filled up also means sand bagger central as a result of it's over blown hype. While it is a semi cool track, it's not all that, personaly I think the Glen Helen track blows anything Mammoth has to offer away as far as cool to ride tracks go. Glen Helen isn't that much further of a drive from Reno and you can just about always bet if you drive down there for a race your going to get in, not to mention they offer multiple races a year, often 3 times a week theres a good full gate race going on down there, and lets not even mention available pit space. Mammoth hype is doing nothing for the promoters there ability to keep up with it all, it's gotten somehow bigger than it can even remotely handle, yet it is huge as far as populaity. Maybe that's the secret all promoters need to look at to have ahuge event. Shrink down your pit area capacity to below 2/3's of the actualy amount of racers you let in, then only hold a single event per year so everyone gets left feeling like it's "special" and you just have to be there no matter how badly everything else about it in reality blows.
Local races get scheduled on top of each other so we can leave weekends open for events like Mammoth where only less than probably 1% of our local racers actually made it in. This weekend would have been a great weekend to of held a race for all of us who "couldn't get in" at Mammoth, the vast majority of us by far, at least we'd be able to look at it as we got to race this weekend instead of, we didn't get to race this weekend because Mammoth got filled up in a matter of minutes.
Sometimes that feast thing is good, this weekend would have been good for a feast for those of us who didn't get into Mammoth, we'd at least have had somewhere to race, beats horseback riding in Oregon, the bugs here at night are just insane and the bar at the resort closes at 10PM (whats up with that? Closing a bar on a Friday night especialy at 10PM in Nevada I believe is against the law).
I know it didn't go over well with some that Mustang held a local race on the same day as an out of town Winnemucca race, but for many the same principle applied, there were alot of people who would of otherwise not been able to race that weekend at all if Winnemucca was left as their only option.
Unless the dates have changed, we're going to have a simular situation once again with Mustang holding a race the same weekend as the Fallon race.
Personaly, I'm glad I have another available option that weekend where I can race rather than just staying home that weekend and watching TV because I'm just not into racing on the tiny built to satisfy spectator Arenacross type tracks like the Live Stock event center or Fallon fairgrounds tracks have to offer. It has nothing to do with who the promoter is for me, I 'd just rather race on an actual MX track than an Arenacross track or just stay home if that's my only other option. It's not even that I don't like the small short tracks I could ride in my living room and have the same, I just can't justify the expense in my mind when it costs me the exact same to race a track like the Fallon fairygrounds as it costs to race an actual full sized track where I get a ton more seat time for the same amount of money. Maybe some of you are paying for track time in the hopes of being the next RC, in which case I don't see how a win at the Fallon Fairgrounds is going to get you there, but myself, I have no desire to be the next RC, I'm just having fun and the more seat time I'm getting the more fun I'm getting for my same amount of money.
We need more feast and less famine for sure. Three races to choose from every weekend is far better than having no race at all. Series races seem to lock in sandbaggers and shut out people racing in the correct class.
Besides, trying to schedule around just our local races is practicly impossible, look how often and quickly published schedules just for a single series get changed around here. Holding a race takes more than just pointing at a calander date and saying I think I'll have a race that weekend, it takes a ton of advanced planning to get ready for it and when everyone else drags their heals on releasing dates till the last possible minute others likely already had plans in motion trying to see if they could put something together for that same date.
Better too much than too little, just race at the best track for you that weekend, beats not having anywhere to race that weekend.
Of course this plan is due to change at a moments notice as well, but the most recent plan with Mustang is to not hold any kind of series, but instead just a single race a month.
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Post by Dylan Laidlaw 144 on Jun 30, 2006 13:08:16 GMT -5
another huge tony post
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Post by racergreg on Jun 30, 2006 16:09:19 GMT -5
When I was talking to the Sierra mx people when they were forming their group, specifically Marvin, they thought we had too many races. Their plan at the time was to have less races so more riders could qualify for awards and trophies. But they would be of higher quality than the normal MXWest races we had at the time. Now we seem to have less races at the most popular tracks like Fernley and Stead, and more races where its more expensive to race at like Hawthorne and Winnemucca. racergreg
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Post by mxrules on Jun 30, 2006 17:38:19 GMT -5
Don't worry racergreg, we at MxWestRacing are working on a great Fall season. You have not heard from us much because we want to have things finalized first before posting. One of our main concerns is that we have high quality races & lots of them.
MxWestRacing
President - Steve Borjeson
Vice President - Mark Cody
Treasurer - Kim Fairbanks
Secretary - Cat Borjeson
Rider Rep - Robert Beaupre
Sergeant at Arms - Dave Wright
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Post by Mr Moto on Jul 1, 2006 0:19:00 GMT -5
It looks like the NO's are winning, I hope people are reading this that put on races.
The racers are speaking! Hello anybody there?
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Post by tony on Jul 1, 2006 7:50:09 GMT -5
The "No's" are winning but where are they for showing up at the races?
Sierra just posted the results for the last Fernley OTHG race and I count 193 entries, that is absolutely pathetic for an OTHG run Fernley race!
Thats the local track and promoter who has a long standing history of holding our biggest local events.
I thought Mustang was doing bad with 197 entries till I seen the turn out posted for thsat last Fernley race and was amazed to see Mustang had a weak but better turnout.
Tonight at Mustang, with no one else holding any events at all localy this weekend we only had 157 entries?
Worse than we've even had with other events going on. If the "No's" are winning then they sure aren't showing up at the tracks anywhere and racing. It's all looking like MX is darn near dead in this area, and thats not good for any of us.
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