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Post by beaupre716 on May 21, 2010 16:02:43 GMT -5
If you're interested in the subject of concussions, check out my new essay on the home page. I'd like to hear people's thoughts on the topic, and what they think of all the recent press concussions have been getting (I've read quite a bit of mainstream news stuff on them lately.)
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Post by rustybuck#22B on May 21, 2010 18:41:28 GMT -5
I think it is scary because I have had 5 in my life all from football and I am only 16
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Post by peterson768 on May 21, 2010 20:05:46 GMT -5
Great topic Robert. You're right on when you talk about the unknown of concussions, also known as Tramatic Brain Injurys or TBI's. This was the reason my racing days were cut short. Not knowing the long term effects of TBI's is another subject, however, the short term effects have been well documented. Sustaining multiple TBI's in a short period is a huge problem with outcome's up to and including death. This condition is called Second Impact Syndrome or SIS. Second Impact Syndrome (SIS) is a catastrophic event that occurs when an athlete - or anyone - sustains a second head injury (a concussion) before the symptoms from the first injury have resolved. These symptoms may occur immediately or several minutes after the traumatic event. Ryan Sheve was a local Firefighter/Paramedic and an expert wakeboarder. He lost his life to SIS and his family has dedicated their lives to the education of SIS. Every Rider needs to be aware and take these injuries serious! It might seem like "Just another Bell Ringing" when the first one happens and you will be fine in a couple hours. NOT TRUE!! Let these injuries heal! Everyone lets broken bones heal before they ride again------please do the same for your brain. Clayton Peterson Here's the link to Ryans brochure: co.eldorado.ca.us/ems/pdf/Second_Impact_Syndrome_Brochure.pdfTheir is also more info. on: co.el-dorado.ca.us/ems/Second_Impact_Syndrome.htm
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Post by rustybuck#22B on May 21, 2010 21:40:19 GMT -5
That is kind of scary. like how close can your concussions be? Because mine were pretty close if I remeber right.
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Post by beaupre716 on May 21, 2010 21:51:30 GMT -5
Great info, Clayton. SIS is a real threat, and I should have dedicated more space to it, now that I think of it. One of the scary things about concussions is that you can often feel ready to ride right after one, though doing so can put you in an extremely vulnerable place--not only because you're more likely to have a second, more severe concussion, but also because your brain often isn't ready to perform at a high level after a concussion, and a motocross track is no place to be if your judgment or reflexes are impaired in any way. I think it's wise to spend no less than a month off the bike after any concussion, and science may well prove that a month is not enough in many cases. I think going on the side of caution is a smart move when it comes to any head injury. Rusty, that's too bad about the football injuries. I know football helmet technology is advancing nowadays, but it seems like it has a long way to go. Let's you and I just stay off our heads from now on, shall we?
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Post by beaupre716 on May 21, 2010 21:54:51 GMT -5
That is kind of scary. like how close can your concussions be? Because mine were pretty close if I remeber right. Farther apart is always better, but I don't think there is a baseline for when a concussion is fully healed. From what I've read, it depends on the person and the severity of the concussion. Much of the long-term science on this subject is still murky.
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Post by rustybuck#22B on May 21, 2010 22:38:57 GMT -5
Let's you and I just stay off our heads from now on, shall we? haha I think i'll try . Just stay away from football and i am good! haha pretty sad that two seasons of football I got hurt more than 10 years of motocross!
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Post by liv4moto on May 22, 2010 2:09:26 GMT -5
nice write up bobby, Its always kinda worried me with the numerous amount of concussions Ive had through out my racing career, Ive always ran a shoei to protect my noodle.... Its been a long time since Ive hit my head until recently mountain biking Ive found myself riding without and if any a non full face mtn bike helmet when getting crazy on the mountain... a few days ago we stopped to hit a double in town (without a helmet) Ive done million times and didn't pedal enough one time and took the gnarliest soil sample Ive taken on the pedal bike, hitting my head really hard, blacking out for a couple sec, Ive learned that though my career racing moto with how much faster they go all the get offs, at least you wear the proper padding to take a good crash... Next time i throw a leg over a mtn bike ill reconsider how much they still can hurt even though your pedaling!
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Post by rustybuck#22B on May 22, 2010 4:26:34 GMT -5
YA it's the little dumb things that can get you hurt the worst!
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Post by beaupre716 on May 22, 2010 9:35:54 GMT -5
nice write up bobby, Its always kinda worried me with the numerous amount of concussions Ive had through out my racing career, Ive always ran a shoei to protect my noodle.... Its been a long time since Ive hit my head until recently mountain biking Ive found myself riding without and if any a non full face mtn bike helmet when getting crazy on the mountain... a few days ago we stopped to hit a double in town (without a helmet) Ive done million times and didn't pedal enough one time and took the gnarliest soil sample Ive taken on the pedal bike, hitting my head really hard, blacking out for a couple sec, Ive learned that though my career racing moto with how much faster they go all the get offs, at least you wear the proper padding to take a good crash... Next time i throw a leg over a mtn bike ill reconsider how much they still can hurt even though your pedaling! I hear ya, Josh--two of my eight concussions came from pedal bikes rather than moto. Sadly, they were probably due to the fact that I wasn't wearing a bike helmet. When I was younger, not a soul I knew wore a bike helmet. Nowadays, I see lots of kids running them at dirt jumps and skateparks. That's a change for the better. Still, even though I now always wear a helmet, I try really hard to stay upright on the bikes now too. But I wonder why I'm drawn to so many things that can give you a concussion in the first place. Couldn't my parents have taught me to play tennis or the piano or something?
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Post by Jeffb on May 23, 2010 2:04:31 GMT -5
Rusty is my son and he had concussions in football weekly. 4 games...4 concussions. One week apart on each of the 4. The coaches not knowing any better would tell Rusty to stop the offense and most of the time...single handedly he would. I finally pulled him out because it was every game he would see green colors where white was. He was also losing the feeling in his right shoulder and arm after the "BIG HIT". He went against anybody and left alot of the other players on the ground. Ya know the proud father sayin "Thats my boy" don't cut it anymore. To dangerous. Like Rusty said, 10 years of racin and he is hurt more in 4 weeks of Pop Warner Football. Goes to show which equipment is more up to date. Thanks Robert for bring it up. It is scare'n me more with new info that I am learning. We did take him to the Hospital tho while this was happening. Still.....scary stuff
JeffB TOY FXR Motorsports
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Post by Beyer142R on May 23, 2010 11:46:55 GMT -5
Its true, growing up never thought about wearing a helmet bmx or skiing. My girls and I did the Jr. Ski Program this year and 95% of people there had helmets. Not Us. Really felt out of place. Next year, its helmets for all of us!
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Post by beaupre716 on May 23, 2010 11:48:25 GMT -5
Rusty is my son and he had concussions in football weekly. 4 games...4 concussions. One week apart on each of the 4. The coaches not knowing any better would tell Rusty to stop the offense and most of the time...single handedly he would. I finally pulled him out because it was every game he would see green colors where white was. He was also losing the feeling in his right shoulder and arm after the "BIG HIT". He went against anybody and left alot of the other players on the ground. Ya know the proud father sayin "Thats my boy" don't cut it anymore. To dangerous. Like Rusty said, 10 years of racin and he is hurt more in 4 weeks of Pop Warner Football. Goes to show which equipment is more up to date. Thanks Robert for bring it up. It is scare'n me more with new info that I am learning. We did take him to the Hospital tho while this was happening. Still.....scary stuff JeffB TOY FXR Motorsports Good call, Jeff. I try not to worry too much about the effects of my past concussions (what's done is done, after all,) but I do try to minimize my risks for future ones. The info can be scary sometimes, but it's important to remember that we don't know that much about the subject yet--maybe it's not as bad as we sometimes think. Time will tell.
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Post by 99adad on May 23, 2010 20:48:10 GMT -5
My take on this subject will probably not go over well in some people's minds, but here goes. A head injury is an extremely serious thing. If you don't think so listen to Mohamed Ali. Any coach that would allow a child athlete to continue competing with multiple head injuries should be arrested for child abuse. The problem with the sport of motocross is that up coming child athletes are often coached by their parents, who are often not qualified or trained to see the warning signs that are associated with serious brain trauma. My long time soccer coach and mentor, Len Oliver (see USA Soccer Hall of Fame), often told me that succeeding in a sport was miniscule when compared with succeeding in life. My best advice to all parents who want to coach their children is to take some classes in both coaching and First Aid. That was my rant on the kid side, now for the adults. People often ask me why I don't ride more. The answer is always easy and simple; I have to pay for all this stuff. It does hurt and you will pay. Our older brains, due to previous abuse, will not recover as fast or fully from the effects of trauma. Listen to the people around you, if you are unwilling to listen to the advice of doctors. To paraphrase, if every one around you is wrong look into your own soul. If folks around you are saying that you are different after your last crash, you probably are. Put down the bike and step away. Your few moment of fun and adrenaline are not worth your jobs, family, and a lifetime of memories. Lastly, I want to say that I in no way discourage anyone from following their passions and dreams as far as any sport goes, I would be the last one to do that. My purpose on this rant is to get folks to recognize that the “that won't happen to me" rule does not apply. This sport, like all others that involve extreme physical contact, will result in extreme injury. Know when you are hurt and rest all parts, including the brain, as needed. If you don't know how long you should rest an injury, learn. Brain trauma is not like a fracture that does not set right. You don't walk with a funny limp, you die.
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Post by rustybuck#22B on May 23, 2010 22:44:40 GMT -5
I agree. That is the reason I was pulled from football. Because to many head injuries
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