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Post by tony on Jul 9, 2006 10:21:55 GMT -5
EDIT: Just read below, I think my point and questions will be easier to understand...
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Post by Larry63r on Jul 9, 2006 17:42:28 GMT -5
Fallon is 8/11-12. Are you saying that Mustang will not run on 8/13?
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Post by jdal on Jul 9, 2006 22:18:46 GMT -5
Quote:This goes in line with some of the garbage about Mustang I've read on the OTMX message board that tries to imply Mustang has purposely run race dates in an effort to shut down other tracks.
Tony I went to the otmx message board to find out where you come off with this and I could not find anything negative about mustang
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Post by Mr Moto on Jul 9, 2006 22:38:08 GMT -5
I'm not sure either? maybe it was this post? go2win Beginner member is offline Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1 Winnemucca and Mustang « Thread Started on May 29, 2006, 9:02pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just noticed that Mustang has a series that is on two weekends that there are Sierra Motocross races. We thought Mustang was a Sierra track. I don't want to gripe because we are finally getting lots of tracks to go to but it doesn't seem right for Sierra to let 2 members have races on top of another member. We will be in Winnemucca because they were first. Hope to see a good turn out. I heard the last series awards will be at Winnemucca along with a pit party. Does this change anything?
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Post by JAja on Jul 9, 2006 22:46:40 GMT -5
Tony, Since you seem to be the one "in the know, and have been swamped with phone calls, maybe you would be the one to shed some light on our situation. No one on the SMRA board has been "Swamped" with anything at this time. I have been in contact with a couple of SMRA board members. The rest have not returned my calls or e-mails. Here is my knowledge as it stands. Lise and Larry Wosick are going to complete the Summer Series race they have scheduled for August 19. After that they are leaving SMRA. Jerry Masterpool is scheduled to have a SMRA summer series race on August 13. NO ONE THAT I KNOW OF on the SMRA board has been notified that he is not going to run that race. I do have my own doubts, because he has not attended our meetings and has broken our by-laws and had races on top of other member clubs. His race results have not been turned in to me for advancement points. I would appreciate it if you would contact the Masterpools and find out if they plan on having the August 13 race. My call remains unanswered. It would be very embarrassing to have a few hundred riders show up at his track and be greeted with closed gates. Thank You Judy Aja www.jaja@phonewave.net775-423-8226
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Post by gregg86n on Jul 10, 2006 0:35:19 GMT -5
About 1% is actually going towards any type of charity like the Lions club. Your way off on this one Tony, As a director of the Lions club I know what the clubs give.
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Post by Mr Moto on Jul 10, 2006 0:59:33 GMT -5
Help me understand something, if you belong to a non-profit motorcycle club that promotes motocross races to make money to keep the club active and generate enough money to keep promoting races….How is that not giving not giving back to the sport?
Without those clubs we wouldn’t ever had motocross in this area, in the past they where the only people putting on motocross events…
As for the money donated to the Lyons club, we not do it! They do a lot of good in the community and I’m sure the money the take in is low with as few races being held at the Fern. They benefit from donations and selling food at the concession stand at the Fernley track. Isn’t it also important to give back to the community that support the sport we all love?
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Post by gregg86n on Jul 10, 2006 1:23:20 GMT -5
I've been thinking about auctioning off the first Burger that comes out of the new cook shack the lions club will hopefully have on Aug.27 Be a part of history, put you money where your mouth is!!
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Post by dakota on Jul 10, 2006 17:25:16 GMT -5
Tony,
I have never had a chance to me you officially, but don't you think that Mustang MX, Sierra MX, and MX West should post their own discussions about THEIR races or are you the spokes- person for all entities? Just wondering.....isn't this how "conflict" begins?
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Post by tony on Jul 10, 2006 20:51:57 GMT -5
Larry, Haven't been able to get a definate answer on this from anyone that's 100%, but it looks like there will not be a race out there as per the Sierra Schedule showing 8/12, 8/13? I wish I did know more, I was looking forward to that race, and hope what ever is going on can get figured out and decided. Personaly I don't see how it will be running the race ontop of the MX West race that weekend either. Besides, it's a Sierra race and the people who have been racing in that Sierra Series were probably never planning to race Fallon anyhow that weekend. jdal, The post Layne (Mr Moto) copied in here was the message I was refering to. There was another message simular to that I thought I had read there as well, but it's been a few days so I could be wrong on that. Judy, Thanks, that was one of the main questions I have been getting asked by people as far as that Honey Lake Race on August 19th. People were wondering not if it was canceled or anything, but if that was going to be an actual race that day, or just an awards ceremony and BBQ for the Series. The flier isn't exactly clear about that, it looks like the 19th is just a BBQ and awards ceremony with no racing, then the only racing that weekend is the GP race the following day which is a non series race. Thanks for clarifying that there is an actual series race at Honey Lake on the 19th in addition to the awards ceremony (correct)? The phone service out at Mustang is spotty to bad, I've been trying to reach them for 2 days and haven't been able to catch them while they are in range. Someone is working on the brakes for my truck right now so I can't just drive up there to find out at the moment. Last I knew Bud and Jerry were talking about it and since I didn't hear any more I just figured they were going to hold the race. I got an email with some dates to put up on the Mustang web site the day I brought this up here because I noticed one of the training camp dates seemed to fall on top of what I thought was going to be the Sierra Race out there. Unable to reach anyone by phone to ask, I was hoping maybe someone reading here knew more. Sounds like your as much in the dark about it as I am though. If I still can't get through to them by phone I'll be able to take a ride up there Tuesday I hope and see what I can find out, I'll give you a call as soon as I know anything. As far as... "His race results have not been turned in to me for advancement points." No one's said anything to me about this, I had no idea you didn't have them. Lise from Honey Lake scored that Sierra race. All I have that I can give you are the same results that have been posted on the Mustang web site since that race, will that help you in figuring out your series points? www.mustangmx.com/results/index.htmlGil, I'm sure I'm off with that percentage, I just put that out there figuratively and shouldn't have did that. My mind wasn't focused on that being the point of what I was writting when I just dropped that number out there. Layne, I had to reread my post to understand why you took what I wrote the way you did. Your picking out a single line that's making it out of context to what the overall point I was getting at was. Yes, I see where you got that impression from my initial post now that I reread it thinking from the perspective of where you seemed to be coming from in your response. It wasn't my intent or even a part of my thinking process taking place at the time of writting that (or now) to imply no one else is doing anything. I'm certainly sorry if it was taken that way, I by no means what so ever had any intent of making anyone out to be less or more than anyone else, nor did I intend to come across as if I was bashing someone else, particularly the clubs. My thought train when writting this was only that Mustang is not out to put any tracks out of business or purposely running dates close to others during that 3 race series they recently held. When I started throwing percentages out there my thinking was in only showing there's been a ton of money being put into the development of the track out there and there's been next to nothing coming in because there haven't been many races there. Holding that three race series and the 4th of July weekend race was out of necessity to help generate some income rather than continual expenses. Holding the open practice days out there has on daily average cost twice as much as has been coming in. Holding those races were in hopes of off setting some of that expense, not to draw entries away from other tracks. My thoughts were there because I had just at the time checked the Sierra website to see if the race was still listed, then the only other place I could think of to maybe find out more was by checking the OTMX web site which I don't regularly read, but ran across that post you pasted in above. It had me thinking, if that was the way it was taken about the recent series Mustang ran then that's not what the intentions were by holding those races at all. Again, sorry, I had that post in my head as I was writting as well as puzzlement on if the race was going to be held or not, compiled by questions I've been asked about the Honey Lake date being a race, or just a BBQ. Dakota, I wasn't trying to create any conflict by any means. No one from "Mustang MX, MX West (?), or Seirra MX" were saying anything about the race date in question so I asked the question in hopes someone had an answer. After reading Judy's reply it sounds like it was a good thing I did ask this question because evedintly no one seems to know the answer and like Judy said,
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Post by JAja on Jul 13, 2006 21:07:02 GMT -5
I have been "swamped" with 2 calls to date regarding Mustangs SMRA race August 13. One dad said Mustang was going to do only practices and not race anymore and if they did it would not be under SMRA or MXWest. This info did NOT come from Tony. I got a call from Kelly about 15 minutes after my first post. She was going to contact Mustang and call me the next day. I haven't heard anything since. So..............anyone know what the REAL dealio is? Judy
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Post by tony on Jul 18, 2006 0:03:30 GMT -5
Sorry Judy, I haven't been ignoring this, I've called right after telling you I would and wasn't given a definate answer from Jerry on the matter. I've been out of town and cell range working from zero dark thirty in the morning till wee hours of the night since my last response to you so haven't been able to follow through on any of this very effectively, nor in that time have I recieved a solid answer from anyone on the matter. It's my understanding that Jerry is working on this issue with Bud directly, and I guess everything is at this point in both of their hands and none of us will know anything till after those two get it all straightened out. Personaly, it's nothing against Ty on my part, I just don't like racing the Arenacross events with 4 minute or less motos and I never planned on going to Fallon so was looking forward to a full scale MX race that weekend instead. On the flip side of that though, many of my friends I like to race with, and many of the Mustang regulars had been planning on going to the Fallon race that Friday and Saturday night. This again is just me personaly speaking, had Fallon of been just a single night race it wouldn't of been that big of a deal having a race the Sunday after. That Fallon race though has always been a two full nights of racing event. I don't think it's fair to, or in the best interest of the racers to expect anyone who would like to go to both events to have to cough up the money for three races in one weekend. For god only knows what reason I'll never understand, alot of my own friends I race with like to do that Fallon Arenacross race both nights if they survive the first without getting hurt doing it. Just speaking from the perspective of knowing my friends, all of them have at least two family members that race, and of those two family members they also tend to race multiple classes. Three races on the same weekend under those circumstances is way too much to ask of anyone. What would have been wrong with instead scheduling that Sierra race for the weekend of August 5th and 6th instead? No one else has a race that weekend, yet Sierra decided for some reason to skip that weekend and instead schedule their race in the same exact weekend of the 2 race weekend Fallon race? Jerry didn't ask for that weekend and it's been known since that schedule was released that he was against it, he was stuck with that weekend on the Sierra schedule. I personaly let Bud know Jerry wasn't happy about that months ago, like when it was first found out and released to the public. It should have never been my responsibility to follow through with it all and get that date changed or have to deal with this in any way. I made this post though because I still seen the date creeping up on us and no one working towards the issue I know at least was at hand. At least in my making this post initialy I know some balls got rolling on the matter currently which otherwise were just being ignored and hopefully all of us will have a solid answer before the day of the scheduled race date Sierra is still showing on their web site despite taking the time to otherwise remove any mention of Mustang from the same web site? At this point, without getting a solid answer myself from either Sierra or Mustang, all I can suggest is everyone who had been planning to make that race keep a close eye on the mustangmx.com web site for further information and hopefully I'll at least be able to announce there soon either this race is 100% happening on the scheduled date, this race is 100% happening on a changed date, or this race is 100% not happening at all due to a scheduling error. As far as the answer to the other part of my question, Lise Wosick at Honey lake was on the ball and the day after I posted this question she had all the info I was asking for up and flowing on the Honey Lake web site... www.honeylakemx.com/AUG%20EVENT%20.htmlI know with absolute certainty, alot of us from all denominations of the MX community are looking forward to that weekend of events out at Honey lake! I'd further like to add, I can at least assure you what "one dad" told you Judy about Mustang only planning to do practices out there and not hold any more races is 100% false. Mustang has invested alot in computers, software and staff in an effort to turn out not just an event, but a bar raising great event and it would not only not make any sense, but be completely counterproductive to all the effort that has gone into things for Mustang to "no longer hold any races". As far as the second part of that in stating Mustang will not hold any future races under either MX West or Sierra that too I can at least say with absolute certainty to be false as well. While I wouldn't be able to gurantee no Sierra, or MX West races will be held there in the future, I can at least confirm, no final as it would seem from your post decissions have ever been discussed or made on that matter. Finally, sorry, I don't have an answer for you yet at this time for my own initial question. I'm passing though responsibility for resolving this and letting us all know into the hands of the sanctioning body, SMRA, who took on the responsibilty in the first place of sanctioning this specific race, setting the date, and making it a part of thier published series to provide for all of us the racers a definitive answer on the matter.
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