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Post by nmxd on Jun 12, 2006 14:50:39 GMT -5
Hi all. Here's an interesting thread courtesy of the "motodoc" . It sheds light on how these "multiple sanctioning" things go even at the upper levels of Motorsports. Check it out, its a good read! supercross.com/feature.php?id=594 I need to add for the record that I am NOT an MX west board member any longer, just simply an MX West sanctioned promoter and for the record I AM OPEN to promoting with other santioning entities. Additionally, I want to address an upcoming issue and I will be the first to publicly bring it up right here at mx775.com. Its the topic of the state championship series in the Fall. How will it come together without being a scheduling wreck? I for one would really like to see some kind of arrangement between the sanctioning bodies to make sure we have one (a state series). I am sure it "should" be able to be resolved. Maybe some kind of "summit" where everyone is invited things get hashed out. Food for thought anyway. Have a great day!
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Post by beaupre716 on Jun 12, 2006 15:03:20 GMT -5
I like this idea.
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Post by bud2ride on Jun 12, 2006 19:28:49 GMT -5
I concur with nmxd! let's get together and keep racing in Northern Nevada rider attendance numbers strong! Let's get together.
bud heishman SMRA president
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Post by bud on Jun 12, 2006 19:54:10 GMT -5
Beau,
Thank you for allowing this forum on your site. I checked in today because I have heard stories at the Fernley race this weekend about the torid posts here. I am not interested in entertaining nonproductive antagonism from uninformed or inaccurrate sources. I would like to see productive criticism and positive solutions suggested that aid progress to healthy racing here in Northern Nevada rather than chasing riders over the hill!
I concur with you that it is time to heal and move forward. We at SMRA have always left an open invitation for NMXD to join us. Now is the time to open discussions for the future beginning with the Fall series. I for one would like to see us get together.
Your site looks great! and thanks again! I can also be contacted through SMRA website
bud
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Post by icarus on Jun 12, 2006 21:14:22 GMT -5
Bud,
I'm very glad to hear that Sierra will support NMXD. Ty truly is a great promoter that builds some epic events.
It looks as if your post to talk is directed toward NMXD. My question is the invitation to talk open to MX West as well?
If so, we accept.
p.s. I'm glad Robert had the foresight to remove the venomous posts you heard about. There is no need for them in our racing community
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Post by mxrules on Jun 12, 2006 21:21:47 GMT -5
What is the next Step? I know MxWestRacing wants to get together and so does Sierra Mx. Maybe we can ask a neutral party to coordinate a meeting time and place for both associations and promoters. Just a suggestion! I saw Kelly Perez put a lot of feet work down Sunday talking to people for us riders. I would love to see Kelly get us all together for a meeting that will be the first step in improving Northern Nevada Mx. That would be my vote if she would do it. Mark Cody
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Post by beaupre716 on Jun 12, 2006 22:52:06 GMT -5
I'd imagine we can set up a meeting without a neutral party (no offense, Kelly.) I'll see what's happening with the rest of MX West and maybe we can toss out ideas for a date and time.
Thank you also for the kind words, Bud. I look forward to talking to you.
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Post by mxracersmom on Jun 12, 2006 23:23:29 GMT -5
None taken Robert!
However, if at all possible I would like to be there, I think it would be interesting and a learning experience.
Kelly
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Post by mxrules on Jun 13, 2006 3:18:44 GMT -5
The neutral party was meant more like someone taking the bull by the horns and making it happen.
I suggest maybe we all get together at MustangMx Saturday afternoon prior to the night race! We could meet somewhere in Reno for Lunch or something. This would give more of us a chance to be there.
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Post by tony on Jun 13, 2006 5:10:12 GMT -5
Ty, go figure, you all gave up on MX West, bailed ship on it and left it to a group of people who race in the beginner class other than Robert and have between all of them absolutely no experience what so ever in holding an event to save their names because even though they have the heart needed to do it they lack all degree of experience required to pull it off.
It sounds like a harsh and terrible thing to do, but leave it to me to just state the obvious, lets go ahead and kill off MX West and let Sierra Take over as the area sanctioning body already. You have to admit they've done a good job of putting things together and managed to survive well the first year into it all. I swore I'd have no part of any of it till we went into the first year where the racers actually had a chance to vote for the Sierra MX board members and while my two favorite tracks continue being viewed as the black sheep of the sierra family as a racer and card carrying sierra member like everyone else I have to say Bud did a great job and will be getting my vote next year if he's willing to run again. How he can take what everyone (sorry Bud from me personaly) put that poor guy through is just beyond me. If he's willing to do it another year he's certainly earned it, he's a champion of having a mess and a half to deal with and just plain dealing with it all, I'd go into battle with a guy like that.
Here in lies the only problem though, we have a single track thats different than the others in Mustang, while we have a track like Mustang available to all of us the racers like it is, Mustang has a daily rent that they need to pay just to operate and be kept available to all of us. They are also the only track that offers us the racers a regular place we can go to for groomed quality practices, but our ability to practice there isn't getting the bills even close to paid so Mustang has no choice but to put on their own races or we all lose that track as being possible for us. I don't want to see that happen, it's the only track we have people can practice and get good training at, no one else seems to want to step up and take on that task Mustang is doing, so lets let Mustang keep doing it but figure out a way we can also let them have races to pay for all that without stepping on anyones toes in the master plan.
In respect of that request I'll do what I can to help with the series scoring,however with a simple demand required there. Anyone I help with the scoring must have a legal copy of the Trackside software they've paid for. I can supply them with the computers and systems needed, but they need to be running a legal version of all software within the license agreement. If you were running something illegal in your home I wouldn't care 2 craps, but these are all businesses and no legitimate business should be running on illeagal software and within licencse agreements.
MX West and every track and promoter who have been scored by MX West at their events have been doing so in direct violation of the Trackside software agreement MX West agreed to when they accepted the licenseing agreement provided by the Trackside software. Should the developers of the Trackside software ever find out any of the Promoters who allowed MX West score any of their events in the past then they are each likely to be taken to court and prosecuted for software piracy, and they'll lose that case hands down, its a big deal right now, no one is winning those battles by the way.
The Trackside license agreement clearly states the software is only allowed to be used at a single track, your not allowed to use one license of the software at multiple tracks like MX West has been doing where they've been doing it in the past at all area tracks so OTHG, OTMX, Lovelock, NMXD and the list goes on, have all been while under MX West using pirated software to score their races and could now all be taken to court and lose easily over it. Mustang falls free of this because you are allowed to use the software for a single use free of charge and now Mustang after that single use MX West helped score at even though the race got canceled still owns their own version of the software license.
The bottom line still stands, MX West under the license agreement of the software CAN NOT take their single license of the software legally to all tracks and use it for scoring.
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Post by nmxd on Jun 13, 2006 12:37:41 GMT -5
Tony, I didnt "bail" on anything, I just want a reduced role, the ability to focus on the events I produce and some other areas in my life simple as that.
As usual your hatred and ignorance toward everything regarding Motocross is consistant. Its always something with you. Amazing!
MX West has had one person (Kim) administering all trackside data, with MX West computers using Trackside software. This is COMPLETELY ALLOWED AND LEGAL according to Trackside themselves. If one user (MX West) travels to multiple tracks it is completely irrelevant as long as "MX West" who is the licsened user administers the data on "MX West" computers and has a person (Kim) accountable. If a track such as Mustang has there own application and wants to use their own version at there event so be it.
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Post by mxrules on Jun 13, 2006 13:56:18 GMT -5
Tony you need to stop and just have fun racing. Give it a rest will you? Just the fact that you say Ty bailed on us shows how uninformed you are about things. The best thing you can do is just keep helping Jerry at Mustang and stay out of politics. You are becoming the joke of the community. People that I did not even know were talking bad things about you last Sunday. This is not going to help Jerry at all if you keep doing this BS. Focus on your racing and helping Jerry! Motocross is suppose to be a fun sport.
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Post by icarus on Jun 13, 2006 20:09:42 GMT -5
Not to throw any more stones but even your riders view of MX West is incorrect. MX West has Beginner, Jr, Intermediate and Pro riders.
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Post by nielsenracing482 on Jun 13, 2006 23:06:58 GMT -5
Wow Tony - you are so full of so much hate - how do you sleep at night?? Oh thats right you dont - wow at least tony says what is on his mind. if your are going to bash tony at least find something that hasn't already been said. this board is for talk about racing not personally bashing anybody so if you find the urge to complain, complain about something that has to do with racing. so that way when people read your post its not wasting their time. so just to make this post not a complete waste of time i will say something about racing... we need a 125 2-stroke only class here in Northern Nevada.
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Post by beaupre716 on Jun 13, 2006 23:35:29 GMT -5
Also feel free to raise the 125cc topic with a new thread. I'm not sure that many kids still have their two-fives, but I could be wrong.
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